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<p></p> <table class="diff diff-contentalign-left diff-editfont-monospace" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 14:34, 4 September 2008</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l3" >Line 3:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 3:</td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>#*So, what is diegetic sound?</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>#*So, what is diegetic sound?</div></td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>#Bordwell/Thompson's Table 7.2 &quot;Temporal Relations of Sound Cinema&quot; (p. 289, 8th edition) divides film sound into '''diegetic''' and '''nondiegetic''' categories.  Then it divides the diegetic/nondiegetic categories into different uses of time (hence, &quot;temporal&quot;). This results in six different ways in which time, diegetic space and sound interact (listed below). Provide an example from a film we've seen (or just make up an example) for each.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>#Bordwell/Thompson's Table 7.2 &quot;Temporal Relations of Sound Cinema&quot; (p. 289, 8th edition) divides film sound into '''diegetic''' and '''nondiegetic''' categories.  Then it divides the diegetic/nondiegetic categories into different uses of time (hence, &quot;temporal&quot;). This results in six different ways in which time, diegetic space and sound interact (listed below). Provide an example from a film we've seen (or just make up an example) for each.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>##''Group 4:''' Diegetic nonsimultaneous, sound earlier than image.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>##<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">'</ins>''Group 4:''' Diegetic nonsimultaneous, sound earlier than image.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>##Diegetic simultaneous.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>##Diegetic simultaneous.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>##''Group 1:''' Diegetic nonsimultaneous, sound later than image.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>##<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">'</ins>''Group 1:''' Diegetic nonsimultaneous, sound later than image.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>##''Group 2:''' Nondiegetic nonsimultaneous, sound earlier than image.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>##<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">'</ins>''Group 2:''' Nondiegetic nonsimultaneous, sound earlier than image.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>##Nondiegetic simultaneous.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>##Nondiegetic simultaneous.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>##''Group 3:''' Nondiegetic nonsimultaneous, sound later than image.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>##<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">'</ins>''Group 3:''' Nondiegetic nonsimultaneous, sound later than image.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>#Considering the categories above, what types of sound are in the ''Traffic'' example?</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>#Considering the categories above, what types of sound are in the ''Traffic'' example?</div></td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td></tr> </table>

Jeremy Butler https://screenpedia.org/index.php?title=TCF340/BordwellThompson/Sound_(Discussion)&diff=2368&oldid=prev 2008-09-04T14:34:01Z

<p></p> <table class="diff diff-contentalign-left diff-editfont-monospace" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 14:34, 4 September 2008</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l3" >Line 3:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 3:</td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>#*So, what is diegetic sound?</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>#*So, what is diegetic sound?</div></td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>#Bordwell/Thompson's Table 7.2 &quot;Temporal Relations of Sound Cinema&quot; (p. 289, 8th edition) divides film sound into '''diegetic''' and '''nondiegetic''' categories.  Then it divides the diegetic/nondiegetic categories into different uses of time (hence, &quot;temporal&quot;). This results in six different ways in which time, diegetic space and sound interact (listed below). Provide an example from a film we've seen (or just make up an example) for each.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>#Bordwell/Thompson's Table 7.2 &quot;Temporal Relations of Sound Cinema&quot; (p. 289, 8th edition) divides film sound into '''diegetic''' and '''nondiegetic''' categories.  Then it divides the diegetic/nondiegetic categories into different uses of time (hence, &quot;temporal&quot;). This results in six different ways in which time, diegetic space and sound interact (listed below). Provide an example from a film we've seen (or just make up an example) for each.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>##Diegetic nonsimultaneous, sound earlier than <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">i mage</del>.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>##<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">''Group 4:''' </ins>Diegetic nonsimultaneous, sound earlier than <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">image</ins>.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>##Diegetic simultaneous.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>##Diegetic simultaneous.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>##Diegetic nonsimultaneous, sound later than image.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>##<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">''Group 1:''' </ins>Diegetic nonsimultaneous, sound later than image.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>##Nondiegetic nonsimultaneous, sound earlier than image.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>##<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">''Group 2:''' </ins>Nondiegetic nonsimultaneous, sound earlier than image.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>##Nondiegetic simultaneous.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>##Nondiegetic simultaneous.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>##Nondiegetic nonsimultaneous, sound later than image.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>##<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">''Group 3:''' </ins>Nondiegetic nonsimultaneous, sound later than image.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>#Considering the categories above, what types of sound are in the ''Traffic'' example?</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>#Considering the categories above, what types of sound are in the ''Traffic'' example?</div></td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td></tr> </table>

Jeremy Butler https://screenpedia.org/index.php?title=TCF340/BordwellThompson/Sound_(Discussion)&diff=2367&oldid=prev 2008-09-04T14:24:56Z

<p>created</p> <p><b>New page</b></p><div>== Diegetic and nondiegetic sound==<br /> #First, a review question, from the chapter on narrative form: what is a ''diegesis''?<br /> #*So, what is diegetic sound?<br /> #Bordwell/Thompson's Table 7.2 &quot;Temporal Relations of Sound Cinema&quot; (p. 289, 8th edition) divides film sound into '''diegetic''' and '''nondiegetic''' categories. Then it divides the diegetic/nondiegetic categories into different uses of time (hence, &quot;temporal&quot;). This results in six different ways in which time, diegetic space and sound interact (listed below). Provide an example from a film we've seen (or just make up an example) for each.<br /> ##Diegetic nonsimultaneous, sound earlier than i mage.<br /> ##Diegetic simultaneous.<br /> ##Diegetic nonsimultaneous, sound later than image.<br /> ##Nondiegetic nonsimultaneous, sound earlier than image.<br /> ##Nondiegetic simultaneous.<br /> ##Nondiegetic nonsimultaneous, sound later than image.<br /> #Considering the categories above, what types of sound are in the ''Traffic'' example?<br /> <br /> == Bibliography ==<br /> #David Bordwell and Kristin Thompson, ''Film Art: An Introduction'', 8th ed. (New York: McGraw-Hill, 2007).<br /> <br /> ==External links==<br /> #[http://www.tcf.ua.edu/Classes/Jbutler/T340/ClassicismIllustrations01.htm Classical Hollywood sound examples]<br /> #[http://www.tcf.ua.edu/EO/DV/FilmArt/index02.htm ''Film Art'' examples]<br /> #*[http://www.tcf.ua.edu/EO/DV/FilmArt/Traffic.htm ''Traffic'' example]<br /> #*[http://www.tcf.ua.edu/EO/DV/ManEscaped.htm ''A Man Escaped'' example]<br /> <br /> [[Category:TCF340 Discussion]]</div>

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